Poker Table Rake
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In traditional brick and mortar casinos it is also used to cover the costs involved with providing a dealer though in many places tips provide the bulk of a dealer's income for the game, support staff from servers to supervisors , use of gaming equipment, and the physical building in which the game takes place. The rake in live games is generally higher than for online poker. To win when playing in poker games where the house takes a cut, a player must not only beat opponents, but also the financial drain of the rake.
There are several ways for the rake to be taken. Less frequently, rake is a fixed amount no matter what the size of the pot. A percentage rake is taken directly from the pot. In a live casino, the dealer manually removes chips from the pot while the hand is being played and sets them aside to be dropped into a secure box after completion of the hand.
When playing online, the rake is taken automatically by the game software. Some software shows the rake amount next to a graphical representation of the dealer and takes it incrementally between the rounds of betting, whereas other software programs wait until the entire hand is over and then takes it from the pot total before giving the rest to the winner of the hand.
This is the prevalent method of collecting rake in online poker. The fee is placed on the dealer button each hand by the player in that position, and taken in by the dealer before any cards are dealt. Time collection also "timed rake" or "table charge" is a set fee collected typically every half-hour during the game.
This form of rake is collected in one of two ways:. The above examples are used in ring games , also known as cash games. The rake for participation in poker tournaments is collected as an entrance fee. Some online cardrooms charge a monthly subscription fee, and then do not rake individual pots or tournaments. Some online poker websites have done away with the rake altogether.
Often its written on the table. Anything over big blinds is probably worth a tip. It varies depending on the casino. Tournaments and SnGs are the easiest - you'll be charged a flat fee, same as you would be online, and you pay it at the same time as you pay your buy in for the tournament.
There are a few ways rake in cash games can be handled. The easiest though not necessarily the most common is where the casino charges "time" - everybody pays a flat fee per unit of time they're in the game. Probably the most common method is raking the pot, just like an online ring game.
The dealer will take the amount out of the pot while the hand is in progress. They certainly don't estimate, a big part of casino poker dealer training is tracking pots and calculating rake. Most casinos also have a "no flop no drop" policy where if a pot is taken down preflop no rake is paid. There's another option too which is called the collection pot.
TBH it's one I don't understand that well because I've never played in a casino that uses it but it's sort of like a time charge that's collected differently. Once every hour or whatever the time period is there's a designated "collection pot". The next time there's a pot over a set amount ie: I don't think it's that common, but they do use it on Live At The Bike if you're interested in seeing it in action and someone who's actually played that method might be able to explain it better.
Some casinos combine multiple methods - my local casino charges time and rakes every pot in ring games, for example. Tipping is something I know a lot less about because it's not allowed in our casinos. From what I've read though tipping at the end of a tournament changes. Some casinos have included tips in their fee structure, others don't, check with the tournament director or floor person if you're not sure.
What c9 said works for cash games. December 10th, , 5: If I win a gargantuan pot I'll toss two. Those dealers work really hard and, like waiters and waitresses, count on tips because their hourly base pay isn't all that great.
Also, as in a restaurant, customers who don't tip are not highly thought of by the dealers or floor staff. Even other players chastise someone who doesn't tip. When first-timers sit down, someone will tell them that they should tip. Same goes for Bad Beat Jackpots. An interesting rule is that the Floor is not allowed to accept tips because they are on salary. In June Mike and I were asked to play in the yearly Invitational which often goes into the wee hours, but the hotel was booked.
One of the floor managers bent over backwards to get us a room, and quite a room that was--a suite actually. Because I couldn't tip her, I wrote a glowing letter to HR which not only went into her file but was shared with other key higher-ups.
Originally Posted by LarkMarlow. December 11th, , 4: Thanks for the help guys. Before I sit down at a table, I'll be sure to find the floor manager to find out how they do it.
December 12th, , 4: Please don't compare dealers and wait staff persons. Casino dealers make times minimum wage as base salary. I also tip wait staff because if you dont the next time they spit in your food.
What is the dealer gonna do flip the cards over slower? Now if the dealer is really friendly and Ive done well I usually kick the dealer 5 or 10 dollars when I leave. December 12th, , 5: I dont know if i would tip the dealer for every pot i won. Maybe once in a while when i win a big pot. Originally Posted by Rldetheflop. December 12th, , 2: Originally Posted by dhcg86 whats the max buyin at your game?
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Originally Posted by The Detonator No live rake is unbeatable. Just offshore, State of Jefferson Posts: Originally Posted by Rick Nebiolo I thought you couldn't take a percentage rake or drop based on pot size in California, including Indian reservations.
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